Check out this article from The Huffington Post:
Is this for real...or is this just a publicity stunt from Texas Governor Rick Perry?
Gov. Rick Perry: Texas Could Secede, Leave Union
AP | 04/15/09 06:58 PM
AUSTIN, Texas -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry fired up an anti-tax "tea party" Wednesday with his stance against the federal government and for states' rights as some in his U.S. flag-waving audience shouted, "Secede!"
An animated Perry told the crowd at Austin City Hall -- one of three tea parties he was attending across the state -- that officials in Washington have abandoned the country's founding principles of limited government. He said the federal government is strangling Americans with taxation, spending and debt.
Perry repeated his running theme that Texas' economy is in relatively good shape compared with other states and with the "federal budget mess." Many in the crowd held signs deriding President Barack Obama and the $786 billion federal economic stimulus package.
Perry called his supporters patriots. Later, answering news reporters' questions, Perry suggested Texans might at some point get so fed up they would want to secede from the union, though he said he sees no reason why Texas should do that.
"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."
He said when Texas entered the union in 1845 it was with the understanding it could pull out. However, according to the Texas State Library and Archives Commission, Texas negotiated the power to divide into four additional states at some point if it wanted to but not the right to secede.
Texas did secede in 1861, but the North's victory in the Civil War put an end to that.
Perry is running for re-election against U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, a fellow Republican. His anti-Washington remarks have become more strident the past few weeks as that 2010 race gets going and since Perry rejected $550 million in federal economic stimulus money slated to help Texas' unemployment trust fund.
Perry said the stimulus money would come with strings attached that would leave Texas paying the bill once the federal money ran out.
South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, also Republicans, have been outspoken against the federal economic stimulus spending and were supportive of tea parties in their states. The protests were being held throughout the country on federal income tax deadline day to imitate the original Boston Tea Party of American revolutionary times.
In an appearance at the Texas Capitol last week, Perry joined state lawmakers in pushing a resolution that supports states' rights protected in the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. He said the federal government has become oppressive in its size and interference with states.
Since then, Perry has been featured on the online Drudge Report, and other conservative commentators and citizens have latched on to his words.
After praising veterans in the cheering crowd Wednesday, he said: "I'm just not real sure you're a bunch of right-wing extremists. But if you are, we're with you."
Perry said he believes he could be at the center of a national movement that is coordinated and focused in its opposition to the actions of the federal government.
"It's a very organic thing," he said. "It is a very powerful moment, I think, in American history."
For her part, Hutchison issued a newspaper opinion piece Wednesday criticizing the Democratic-led Congress for spending on the stimulus bill and the $1 trillion appropriations bill.
"On April 15 -- Tax Day -- some in Congress may need a reminder of just who is underwriting this spending: the American taxpayer. I am deeply concerned over the swelling tax burden that will be imposed on all Texas families," she wrote.
The crowd at the Austin tea party appeared to be decidedly anti-Democrat. Many of the speakers were Republicans and Libertarians.
One placard said, "Stop Obama's Socialism." Another read, "Some Pirates Are in America," and it showed photographs of Obama, U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid wearing pirate hats.
Rebecca Knowlton, 45, of Smithville, said she took the day off of home-schooling her three children and brought them to the rally to teach them about civic duty. Knowlton, a critic of the Social Security system and the United Nations, said she felt camaraderie at the demonstration.
"The movement is growing stronger," she said. "You're not alone."
This article from David Wilcock of Divine Cosmos hits the nail on the head:
Great Awakening II: Swine Flu + Mainstream Media = $$$
Tuesday 4 / 28 / 09
The criminal NWO cartel desperately needed another 9/11 to throw the public off the scent. Explore the ‘story behind the story’ you won’t hear in mainstream OR alternative conspiracy media!
By David Wilcock
READ PART ONE HERE: THE PROPHECIESCOLOSSAL CONTENDERS
Foot and Mouth. West Nile Virus. Ebola. Anthrax. Hantavirus. Mad Cow. Africanized bees. SARS. Avian Flu. Monkeypox. Drug-resistant TB. Flesh-Eating Bacteria. And now, Swine / Avian / Human Flu, or "Swine Flu" for short.
What’s the one thing all of these media-enriched diseases have in common?
In every case, the mainstream news organs have taken the ball and run with it… FAR out of proportion to the number of people who ever actually end up dying.
"Oh, but THIS TIME it’s going to be different… this could be The One…"
Haven’t you started noticing that the mainstream media ALWAYS wants you to think we’re right on the brink of apocalypse?
Remember how every skirmish in the Middle East — like when Israel invaded Lebanon less than two years ago — is feverishly expected to suddenly turn into World War III and the Battle of Armageddon? It’s the same principle.
If it bleeds, it leads.
More and more of us are waking up to what is really going on… but if you are fairly new to the game, you may not recognize the same-old-same-old once it starts happening again.
We here at Divine Cosmos certainly do, and wouldn’t have even bothered to write up the obvious had we not gotten so many of your letters, some rather desperate-sounding, seeking our opinion. It’s much faster to write a post than handle them all individually.
Then, the more we looked at it, the more we realized that this WAS a really big story… but not for the reasons the mainstream media — OR the anti-Obama conspiracy media — have been giving.
LET’S JUST SAY…
Let’s say you have an international criminal cartel.
Let’s say this cartel just lost a very pivotal election — spectacularly! — and with it the vast majority of their political power.
Let’s say this cartel knew they were just about dead broke, and that losing the election could mean almost certain financial defeat — so they pulled an incredibly brazen, public smash-and-grab to "Bail Out" their sprawling corporate octopus for just a little longer:
Let’s say this cartel is effectively bankrupt financially, with months or less of operating capital remaining, and is now teetering on the verge of complete collapse.
[Their bare-minimum budget appears to be about a trillion a year at the very, very least, and the portion of funding from the first round of TARP that went ‘missing’ is well under half that amount.]
Let’s say this cartel owns a major cable news station as well as certain key organs of mainstream print media.
Let’s say this cartel used these outlets to try to incite a public uprising, where civilians would overthrow their government, creating a whole new ‘Nation’ of states seceding from the Union to side with them:
Let’s say this cartel’s plan soon evolved into openly trying to finance and spark off a New American Revolution of "Tea Parties", including offering their own "celebrity" newscasters’ appearances to entice their viewers to show up:
Let’s say this seditious campaign was a dismal failure, widely ridiculed for the astonishingly poor choice of ‘branding’ implicit in the name — a homo-erotic frat prank called ‘Teabagging’, named as such for the relationship between the appearance of a teabag and a rather enjoyable part of the male anatomy.
Let’s say those few who did participate in the "Tea Parties" became even MORE educated as to what’s really going on, and who’s really to blame — namely the shadowy controllers behind the scenes, such as the Federal Reserve — and loudly helped spread the word to others driving by:
Let’s say one insider from this cartel, who happens to be a governor,
suggested that his state could secede from the Union —
wording it in a slippery ‘maybe’ fashion — only to have polls reveal
at least 75 percent of his constituency vehemently opposed it. Another epic and highly embarrassing failure.
Let’s say
the victorious new administration shut down this cartel’s secret torture prisons — gulags whose continued existence is an essential element of running a dictatorship, where they can detain and brutalize people without ever charging them with a crime.
These secret concentration camps, of course, create great fear in the public, so they would never dare to oppose their tyrannical masters — but again, let’s say they have now been shut down:
Let’s say the victorious new administration
blatantly released memos implicating the highest levels of the cartel in war crimes — i.e. the torture of detainees —
even though at least four different very high-ranking CIA officials screamed for them not to: Let’s say that a prominent ACLU lawyer who helped force the release of the memos said
"these are the first dominoes" that will lead to, at the very least, a purging of many high-level CIA officials:
MORE AWARE THAN YOU MIGHT THINK
Let’s also say the victorious new administration is well aware of the prophecies of an epic shift in human consciousness surrounding the year 2012.
Let’s say the new administration knew that releasing the torture memos and defeating the opposition would be a key part of the cleansing of our society — to fulfill the positive 2012 prophecies in practical terms.
Let’s say the new administration staged a photo-op in front of the AUTHENTIC, ORIGINAL Aztec Calendar — whose timing system is almost identical to the Mayan Calendar… an image widely used as the main symbolic representation of the Mayan Calendar and 2012.
Let’s say that
this very important symbolic photo was then directly associated with the release of torture memos in the news — and no overt mention of the significance was ever given:
[Naturally, the choice of that particular location in the Mexico Anthropology Museum, and that one specific artifact’s relationship to positive 2012 prophecies, must be a coincidence. It’s just a photograph. No need to read in anything unusual about it. Moving on…]
Let’s say the victorious new administration, after first creating a huge public outrage by saying
they would not pursue their enemies, then pulled a complete 180.
Let’s say the new administration suddenly announced, last Tuesday, that
they WOULD potentially prosecute those who operate and control this cartel — at the very highest levels — for having condoned and ordered torture:Let’s say that this sudden 180 stunned and demoralized the criminal cartel’s media outlets — and all they could do was whine and complain about how it was a complete and total change of policy:
TWO-YEAR-OLD ‘DIRTY LAUNDRY’ SUDDENLY AIRED OUT…
Let’s say that during this same week,
a two-year old, tragic story on torture ‘suddenly’ leaked out.Let’s say that the leaked story is about a female military officer who witnessed acts of torture in Iraq, and was horrified by them. Was she ready to blow the whistle? To reveal all to the world? Very likely.
Did she make a mistake, and telegraph her moves too strongly? Very likely.
Did she then "just so happen" to die of a (supposedly) self-inflicted gunshot wound? Unfortunately, yes.
Obviously, in a harsh wartime environment, where everyone carries guns, there is no possibility of foul play in something like this. She undoubtedly did it herself. Case closed.
Again, the question. Why now? Why this week? Are the cabal’s secret methods — of using assassination to suppress the truth — being revealed so as to trigger a mass awakening?
Could the new administration, given all the other things it’s doing to bring down the criminal cartel, be behind this new leak? Think about it:
BLOODY NEW SHEETS
Let’s say that a fairly innocent corporate underling was recently raised to power in the nearly-destroyed, highly corrupt Freddie Mac mortgage corporation, once all the higher-ups were thrown out:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97NJOS03&show_article=1Kellermann, a
University of Michigan graduate who went to business school at
George Washington University, worked for Freddie Mac for the past 16 years and was named acting chief financial officer last September when the government seized control of the company and ousted top executives.
Let’s say this underling stumbled over something he "wasn’t supposed to." Something that could destroy the criminal cartel completely. Something that implicated the very highest levels — in a way that rhymes with ‘tush’.
Let’s say this underling found a BIG story… and he was ready to run with it, despite promises he might have made to dummy up:
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=7399376&page=1In filings with the SEC in March, Freddie Mac said it had entered into a pact with Kellermann and two other company executives to protect them from liabilities and expenses in connection to any threatened or pending lawsuits.
Let’s say this underling made a mistake, and telegraphed his impending moves too strongly.
Let’s say that during this same week, he ‘just so happened’ to hang himself in his basement. Unfortunately, this is true:
[Of course, there is no correlation between this tragic event and the almost immediate release, just a few days later, of another, similar story about a female military officer in Iraq from two years ago — suggesting the use of fake suicides to cover-up the corruption at the highest levels.]
KNOCKING DOWN THE HOUSE MADE OF OILY CREDIT CARDS…
Let’s say that during this same week, articles appear in mainstream media proving that the new administration is fulfilling its pledge to
directly attack the corruption in the oil industry and break their ‘tyranny’ over our society:[In my "Government Conspiracy 101" sociology class in college, with the sneaky title "Contemporary Social Issues," we learned that the oil industry — a key part of the no-longer-ruling criminal cartel — has fought viciously for many, many years to suppress public transportation such as light rail, bullet trains, mass subway transit and bus systems, as well as any and all forms of alternative energy.]
Let’s say that during this same week, the new administration also announces initiatives to aggressively tackle the
corruption in the credit card industry — another essential pillar of the criminal cartel’s illicit financing:
Let’s say that — yes — during this same week, ( ! ),
an ex-astronaut gets widespread public and media momentum, including major TV coverage, to
finally destroy the criminal cartel’s secrecy over their most jealously guarded issue of all — the UFO cover-up — after more than 60 years of violently-enforced silence: [UPDATE WED.] OH WHAT THE HECK… THROW IN FREE ENERGY (COLD FUSION) FOR GOOD MEASURE!
Let’s ALSO say that during this very same week, the good guys behind the scenes at CBS News release a
twelve-minute documentary on 60 Minutes smashing the criminal cartel’s manufactured myth that “Cold Fusion” is a fake.Let’s say that this is a very bold step forward towards destroying their grip on oil and all other fuels, inevitably leading towards a Utopian era where money is no longer necessary because we have limitless energy completely without cost:
Let’s say all the above are true. (Along with many other facts we will share in later sections of this article, for those who staunchly refuse to see the obvious.)
In that case, by all standards, it was a terrible, awful, no-good, very bad week for the criminal cartel — and wonderful for everyone else who yearns to breathe free.
WHAT CAN A BANKRUPT, WORLDWIDE CRIMINAL CARTEL DO ON SUCH SHORT NOTICE?
What to do, what to do?
Could you do another 9/11? Not on such short notice — and not when you’re flat out of money.
[When
the Disclosure Project brought out 39 whistleblowers with firsthand knowledge of government involvement in UFOs at the National Press Club, all willing to testify before Congress under oath, 9/11 happened just five months later — right as momentum for the hearings had started building, even in spite of the controlled media. 9/11 was obviously a bigger story — and it totally blew out the disclosure movement.]
So…
Let’s say the criminal cartel did not have enough money or time to do another 9/11-type event this time around.
Let’s say they did not have enough political power to incite a public uprising against the administration that is destroying them. [The "Tea Party" plans failed miserably and were widely ridiculed.]
Let’s say they really have nothing left to stop the inevitable from happening.
Their future hangs in the balance, and could be decided within mere weeks — given the speed with which things are happening these days.
What, then, do they need? Something cheap, something fast, something easy — anything to divert attention from their own VERY imminent collapse…
Hmm…
Think, think, think…
A SUDDEN DISTRACTION
That’s it — a Sudden Distraction!
Time to call up the Controlled Media and create a huge mass panic. Dominate the news cycles! Don’t let anything else get a word in edgewise! Wall-to-wall coverage on this one issue! Stall, stall, stall!
Fear? Please? Fear!
There you go. Right. Fear. Fear.
You feeling it now? Fear?
Getting it yet? Fear? Fear?
Come on, I know you feel it. Don’t you? Don’t you feel FEAR?
FEAR!
FEAR!
FEAR!
Oh yeah. OH, YEAH!! That’s it! Now you’ve got it! FEAR! FEAR!
FEEEAAR!!! YAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGH!!!!
"OH MY GAAAAHD WE’RE AAAAAHL GONNA DIIIIIIIE!!!! "
Yes. Yes. YES!!! Oh my GOD that feels good, baby!
Do me! DO me! Just like the old times! Oh, it’s so good… SO, so good…
YES!
Rush to the TV! Keep it on! Call your family! Buy masks! Swallow Cipro! Rush for a vaccine! Get the latest magazine! Buy the paper! Don’t Leave the House! Stay Glued to the Media 24/7 — Your Life May Depend On It!
YOU NEED US!
Here’s a video that makes the point clearly and WITHOUT fear:
RIDICULOUS FEAR-MONGERING
NOTHING else was on television. Not for the entire weekend. Monday either. All the newspapers, all the magazines, all the websites were dominated by gripping headlines.
Most of the media is no longer controlled by the old guard, but when a story like this suddenly shows up, they have no choice but to cover it. And that they did.
Jon Stewart did a wonderfully humorous two-part series on this ridiculous fear-mongering:
The Daily Show With Jon Stewart
M - Th 11p / 10c
Snoutbreak ‘09 - The Last 100 Days
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In the second part he uses humor to raise an awkward subject that everyone is starting to think about — could it be possible that the criminal cartel would have done this deliberately?
By masking it as comedy, the thought goes out there, while everyone can just laugh it off.
Since Alex Jones has gotten so extremely popular on the Internet, there’s no doubt that the ‘Jason Jones’ character — from the “Center For Stuff I Heard From Some Guy” — is meant to be a hilarious parody… and it works!
The Daily Show With Jon Stewart
M - Th 11p / 10c
The Last 100 Days
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Economic Crisis
First 100 Days
Of course, the criminal cartel hopes that you’ll be as traumatized, terrified and fearful from their ‘Pandemic’ as you were from 9/11. A little "Shock and Awe" to jolt you into a complete amnesia about everything that happened before That Day.
TRY TO PIN IT ON YOUR ENEMY…
But hey, why stop there? Triggering fears of a mass pandemic — the next 9/11 — is still not enough. Let’s give everyone, and particularly those damn liberals in New York, a good reminder of 9/11. Let’s make it really simple for them to put two and two together — This Flu Thing is the Next 9/11!
How could we do that?
Hmm… all right, I’ve got it!
Let’s fly a frickin’ PLANE right through the middle of New York, at a very low altitude — right around the Statue of Liberty!
Let’s have the plane followed by an F-16 — so everyone thinks it’s been hijacked, and is about to be shot down!
That’ll scare the livin’ pants off of ‘em! That’s great!
That way, everybody will start thinking about 9/11 again — and realize that the new 9/11 is here with the Swine Flu Pandemic!
No, wait, wait, wait…
DUDE! I’ve got an even better idea!
What if we use one of the President’s own planes — Air Force One — and try to get the public to blame all of this on him!
Oh my God! Dude, that is SWEET! Let’s do it! Ha ha ha ha ha!!…
The Obama Haters Will Never Even Bother to Read the Articles Proving He Had Nothing to Do With It and Was Furious!! AWESOME!!!
Notice that when Fox wrote about it, there was not so much as a word suggesting that the Obama administration had in any way opposed this. In fact, they directly suggest he did it himself to scare people… what an evil, evil man:
Officials say the Boeing 747 is used by President Barack Obama and called Air Force One when he’s aboard.
Then, of course, you have this handy little poll off to the right of the same article… we need to find out just how scared everyone really is about Our Last Hope, the Swine Flu.
If only 843 people answered, and not even half of them are scared, hmm… we might have a problem:
EVEN STEWART DIDN’T GET IT RIGHT AWAY
It came out pretty quickly that Obama not only had nothing to do with this, but was furious about it. Yet, Jon Stewart had worked up a bit about the whole thing before that ever became clear:
The Daily Show With Jon Stewart
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Mistakes on a Plane
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HERE’S THE PROBLEM…
Obviously, the old guard has not completely lost power. They still control parts of the Defense Department, including the backup Air Force One jet.
The problem with this ridiculous attempt to pin this all on Obama is that he DID say he was furious — it DID make it into the news. A member of the Old Guard may well have to take a bullet for this one — but they’ve got nothing to lose at this point, so why not? Read:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/28/nyregion/28plane.html?_r=1&em
Later, aides told reporters that President Obama was furious about the flyover when it was brought to his attention. The White House Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, conveyed the president’s anger in a meeting with the director of the White House Military Office, Louis Caldera, who issued the apology.
“Last week, I approved a mission over New York. I take responsibility for that decision,” Mr. Caldera said. “While federal authorities took the proper steps to notify state and local authorities in New York and New Jersey, it’s clear that the mission created confusion and disruption. I apologize and take responsibility for any distress that flight caused.”
PEOPLE ARE FIGURING IT OUT
As this commenter on Huffington Post writes, the people ARE figuring it out:
Comment from vabeachnet on Huffington Post:
This event sounds a lot like one of Cheney’s "moles" wreaking havoc in the Obama White House. The DOD is where Cheney has most of his moles stashed, and it would only have taken a couple of them to pull off this idiotic stunt.
There is no way that even a 1st Grader would have failed to realize the reaction people would have had to this. This has Cheney written all over it. The GOP is DESPERATE, and that is when they are at their most dangerous. They are likely to say or do ANYTHING they think will hurt the Obama White House.
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October 13th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Wow Reverend. Maybe it's time to get out and see a rock band or something.
October 14th, 2008 at 4:55 am
The race isn't over. There are many polls where Obama is down by up to 10 points. The talking heads have him elected but not the American people. Remember they were wrong about Kerry and Gore. The only violence will be when Obama is beaten and the press and community organizers shout that the election was stolen from him.
There are 3 weeks left. The Dems have used their Oct surprise. Now the race will get down to character and whose qualified with more experieince and not the issues or in Obama's case, his intentions.
The Dem party as usual is destroying it chances with it's associations and all McCain will have to do is tie them to Obama and it will shore up the undecided vote sink him like an anchor.
Also if you look at many of the races, the Dems aren't going to pick up enough votes to control congress. Maybe in the House but not the senate.
People aren't forgetting who went on vacation while Rome burned this past summer.
I can't wait for this to be over. I can't wait to see Keith Olbermans face on Nov. 5th/
October 14th, 2008 at 9:29 am
larry: I did on Saturday night. Black Keys…E.J. Thomas.
Ate at Crave before the show. Wife and I had a great time.
The night out gave me a clearer head to write this particular post.
Handwriting is on the wall.
nick21: Gore actually, you know, won.
Interesting to note that you must think the collapse of the economy, run by Republicans for the last 8 years, is, somehow, the Democrats doing. Interesting.
I hate to break it to you, the undecideds are breaking towards Obama.
Even Republicans are saying the Dems will most likely have 57 Senators after the election.
"while Rome burned"?? Oh, you mean, drill, baby, drill. Stupid, uninformed, ignorant people, perhaps, "aren't forgetting who went on vacation"…..but reality-based people realize drilling won't affect gasoline pricing for 10-15 years….and when it does…..it will be a monstrous 3 cent reduction per gallon.
I suppose that could be called "Rome burning"…..I would never call it that….but opinions vary.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:53 am
No, Gore actually lost. You should stop repeating that lie.
October 14th, 2008 at 10:32 am
Rev,
I see you mentioned me in your post, old buddy, so…
About that govenrment spending that I believe needs to be reigned in:
We're are spending a couple trillion bucks on the financial crisis. We have over a $10 trillion national debt. We have $53 trillion in unfunded entitlement liabilities. We spent $165 billion on a stimulus package that didn't stimulate anything. Pelosi is proposing another $150 stimulus package that again, won't stimulate anything. We spend $500 billion for defense. We're spending a trillion on the war. We're bailing out the automakers. The stated federal deficit for 2008 was $438 billion. The ACTUAL deferal deficit for 2008 was over $2 trillion (the federal government keeps about 4 set of books now, to make the situation look less dire than it actually is). We have a massive trade deficit, particularly in energy, that sends $700 billion overseas.
If you can look at all that and NOT come to the conclusion that federal spending needs to be reigned in, then I must question your sanity. Obama plans to greatly increase federal spending, and that is pretty much the biggest reason I'm against him.
Speaking of sanity, I see you are again hinting at your moonbat conspiracy theory about how Karl Rove created the entire financial crisis in order to hamstring the coming Obama administration. I wish you'd put out another post about that. I'm a fan of fantasy fiction.
Browns 35, Giants 14.
Upsets happen. Obama is leading by a touchdown in the fourth quarter, but the game ain't over yet.
If you want to know who the insane haters really are, check out some of the info at this link, about how the left thinks Palin should be stoned, raped, aborted, etc:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/13/more-democratic-rage-not-on-the-front-page/
October 14th, 2008 at 10:34 am
Roy,
If the Rev stopped repeating lies, he wouldn't have anything to write about.
October 14th, 2008 at 10:58 am
Well…you have a choice.
Obama recognizes the serious nature of the economic problem and is willing to consider cuts as well as new spending. You fail to acknowledge this about him. That's fine.
But the candidate you will vote for…McCain….will wreck the lame-ass health care system we do have, putting another 20 million in the uninsured pile while at the same time taxing health benefits…if you have them now. In addition, McCain's focus on the economic problem is the same as the guys who led us the last 8 years. More tax cuts….especially for the richest.
I mean, are you kidding me? You've been defending the leadership of Bush-Cheney for a long time…..your only complaint is that they spent too much. The truth is….they have been maniacs in the area of tax cutting.
The very freaking reason why unfettered business is coming to the bailout party is because they were unfettered and f*cked everything up. It's clear what we get from a marketplace set free of government interference. That's why government must have control over certain vital industries….the free marketers can't be trusted.
Once again….I don't lie.
I didn't say Rove created the problem…..I said Rovian people are taking advantage of the situation….and, as usual, their timing is either coincidence, or strategically planned. You would opt for coincidence…..you always do. Takes a lot of faith.
October 14th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
well this is a post i will bookmark just in case.
but "actions of violence will follow" is over the top. do you care to elaborate on this?
October 14th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
One such example would be the recent nut who opened up on a Unitarian Church group. Some have said, from bio info, that the guy was a big reader and believer in O'Reilly and the fellows. Unitarians are tolerant to gays. 2+2= go kill some of them.
Since Reagan, the extreme right in America has had a reputation for violence. I admit that it's a tiny minority, but it's been there.
Abortion clinic bombings, abortion doctor killings, gay bashing violence, I even think McVeigh could be considered far to the right. There are more examples. In my experience I've witnessed frustrated ultra-conservatives lash out in a physical way.
The entire belief system of far rightists is that might equals right, if done for a "good" cause.
Couple that with the close-to-frenzy time surrounding Bill Clinton's presidency….and I think the potential for violence with an Obama presidency, accompanied by a Democratically controlled Congress, will be high.
I don't want it to happen. I detest violence, I don't care who's creating it.
I also believe, and this is the larger point, that false narratives and race and anger-baiting by the Limbaugh's and the Hannity's out there…..have contributed to this perfect storm condition.
Glad to be wrong.
October 14th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Rev - Hate to say it but Bush showed them how to lower oil prices. Threaten to drill! After he lifted the ban, oil has slowly declined. Miraculously the Nigerians stopped trying to bomb their own pipelines. Gas prices have dropped more than 3 cents in my neighborhood. In fact they dropped about $1.90. The Dems are also wrong about 10 years until we get oil if we start drilling. The oil company heads say 18 months to energy independence, tops. If the government and the environmentalists will work with them to achieve the goal. But the Dems are controlled by to many energy lobbiests to want to help us, such as T.Boone, Gore and the UN.
10 years was 70's technology and the Dems use that reference as a tool to keep their sheep feeling hopeless and under control, while Nancy Pelosi gets mega-rich from a $150K IPO with T Boone Pickens co., Cleane Energy Corp.
Stop spouting this garbage they are programming into your mind and look at the truth Rev. I agree with a lot of what you say, come to the "Right" side. We'll welcome you with open arms.
As far as this economy, to not blame much of this fiasco on Clinton would be wrong. Just like Clinton was the recipient of the gift of the Reagan / Bush years. "W" received the house of cards Bill left. I am not saying it was all Clinton's fault, but many of his policies and inactions have led us to where we are today.
Also I heard a report today that the polls the Obama people are releasing are very skewed. For him to win the way they are talking, 90% of Dem registrants will have to vote. Do you think that will happen? In actuallity Obama is at about a 30% to 70% disadavantage. And the more things like Ayers and AKORN and his ridiculous economic plan that keeps coming out in the press the more the Indy's are moving to McCain. The indy's aren't stupid, they just aren't as committed as others. Their attitude is voting for the lesser of 2 evils, not for their favorite candidate.
October 14th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Rev - the far right is prone to violence? I haven't seen much of that reported in the news. However I have seen many members of PETA throwing paint on people, protests for gay rights that get out of hand with them messing up private property. Abortion mills are murderous in themselves. Throw in some Washington govt building bombings by one of Barracks neighbors and friends. And the left wingers outside of the Primary Conventions wanting to throw Feces, Pee and Bleach on anyone. Sounds like another story of left wing propaganda. We call that projecting in the psychology field. hhhhmmmmmm?
October 14th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
I will give ya the baby killing mill bombings, now that I think of it.
October 14th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
I agree with you 100%. Obama has been leading the polls all along and there is no doubt he will win the election.
October 15th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
The slogan of drill, baby, drill….is the poster child for winguttery.
George W. Bush's own Energy people, not 30 years ago, just recently, concluded it would be 10-15 years until oil from drilling starting now would reach the market. The same George W. Bush Energy people concluded that after that 10-15 years, when the oil reached the market, it would have a 3 cent reduction impact in a gallon of gas.
George W. Bush's people came up with those conclusions.
October 15th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Rev - Apparently that was before Bush decided to lift the ban. Maybe Bush didn't understand the question or understood that the threat of drilling would cause a decline in prices. Maybe he's part of the left wing conspiracy, who knows. He has made some bone head decisions. When he did lift the ban gas dropped almost 60 cents immediately not 3 cents. The ban being lifted and the fact we aren't using as much has caused it to plummet. Here is a question: do our politicians understand supply, demand and prices?
The head of Exxon said it on an interview with Glen Beck and said 18 mos to 2 years tops and we would start seeing oil from off shore. Apparently they have rigs ready and idol off shore. As long as they didn't have to wade through all of the lawsuits made by the environmentalists. They could also see oil from ANWR in 3 years or less. This is through new drilling technologies. This is what I've heard and seen.
October 15th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Look at your sources. Exxon. Glenn Beck.
It isn't the technologies. It's the amount of oil under the ground. Geologists have new technology too….they say there isn't very much oil in North America. Not even close to making a difference.
One more thing…
Oil is a monopolistic commodity. Prices are fixed by futures traders. There is no competition….none. Normal supply and demand expectations do not apply to a monopolistic commodity. That's why we witnessed prices going up WHILE demand was going down.
Two reasons why oil prices have come down recently. Profit taking by traders anticipating they had driven the prices too high and the realization sinking in that Democrats are going to control Washington.
I've seen this same movie in the late 70's early 80's. The only way out of the situation is conservation and alternate sources of energy. I have no problem with oil companies drilling offshore and even in ANWR….but it won't make a dimes worth of difference.
Appreciate the time you took to voice your well-stated opinions.